Rick Warren and the politics of hope



Obama and WarrenLet me say at the outset: I think Rick Warren is not a respectable human being. The fact that he has compared homosexuality to pedophilia and incest, and bars gays from entering his church, where he includes an “ex-gay” support group, suggests he is an immoral person. (He wouldn’t be the first evangelical to be immoral; in fact, are there any moral evangelical people?)

But I will say this: Obama is a moral person, he’s stuck pretty close to his word (with a few exceptions, >ahem!< FISA, federal matching campaign funds, >ahem!<), and he's extremely strategic in his thinking. I've said before that you shouldn't underestimate him, or judge him too early. I did so myself, and learned my lesson early on.

My guess? Obama’s going to make a big pro-gay announcement (either to repeal DADT, or, hopefully, give federal recognition to same-sex partnerships) soon afterwards, and he wants to make it very clear that he made a big, public concession to “the other side of the aisle” before he does that. The fact that the uproar among LGBTs and their supporters has warmed up evangelicals to their president-elect nemesis. That goodwill might be what he needs. He’s pissing off the Left now; hopefully he’s preparing to piss off the Right soon. Politics always involves pissing somebody off, right?

Let’s wait and see.

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12 Comments »

  1. I love that he’s reaching across the aisle! The Right cannot complain as they were about to vote for “two Mavericks”, right?

    😛

    Comment by virgomonkey — December 21, 2008 @ 7:31 pm

  2. I read you comment about my post maybe you can read the whole thing, and by the way the comment on the other blog that you responded to, she put in her own words and misspelled mine and put the whole thing out of context and also refused to publish my retorts. Also maybe you can read how people responded to that post INSTEAD OF JUST READING THE TITLE. and there is a difference between being a zionist and being a jew. look it up!

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 6:41 pm

  3. also you can check out what the FEDERAL RESERVE IS for yourself and who controls it and how it functions and its history, YOU DO NOT have to believe my post or me … I just DO THE RESEARCH buddy!

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 6:45 pm

  4. I have decided to file a complaint against you and her and I will take legal actions. EuroYank is my BRAND and I have established my reputation online for FIVE years. Your statements against me and hers have been recorded. and this is my last word on the subject until my representative has a chance to investigate you both, You may become FAMOUS, but not ONLINE in COURT.

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 6:59 pm

  5. In this particular case, jealousy IS without a doubt at play here. We both use “Blogexplosion”, so I’ve seen him comment on other sites before. He’s a troll.

    – off topic rant
    – knee-jerk reactionary
    – prejudiced
    – not interested in a healthy debate
    – ignoring the facts
    – replying to facts with personal insults

    I am glad he stopped by, though because he is the perfect example of what this blog is all about. He is the sample Americanophobe and anti-Semite.

    THIS WILL COST YOU FUCKER!

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 7:18 pm

  6. Proof that some of the amusing loons you’ll ever want to meet have found their home in cyberspace.

    Comment by JM — December 22, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

  7. LMAO

    Seriously. Where did this guy come from? o_O

    Omg…. we’re gonna get sued too!!!!!

    🙂

    Comment by virgomonkey — December 22, 2008 @ 9:02 pm

  8. Even more than him, I would love to meet the lawyer that agrees to take his case. I’d imagine they’d meet in an insane asylum. 😉

    Comment by JM — December 22, 2008 @ 9:13 pm

  9. Its just sarcasm. You IDIOTS advertise it here so I tried it. What a bunch of dumbasses …. hahaha
    Thanks for the free advertising you SCHMUCKS

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 9:47 pm

  10. These are the blogging days I live for!

    Comment by virgomonkey — December 22, 2008 @ 9:50 pm

  11. AND YOU need to stop taking yourself so seriously. Nobody reads the crap you write, and nobody gives the fuck what you think, but thanks for thinking enough of me to spend so much time fucking around with me. If it turns you on cool!

    Comment by EuroYank — December 22, 2008 @ 9:58 pm

  12. EY, I’d rather have you sue me. That’s…. that’s just so sexy.

    Comment by virgomonkey — December 23, 2008 @ 6:23 am

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